How can one be “doomed” to a state of salvation and glory?

Of course LDS recreational disregard of what the scriptures actually say accounts for why you think this. NO! Christ is not revealed to every person in the spirit world. He organized an effort to find those, and only those, WHO WOULD HAVE RECEIVED THE GOSPEL IN THIS LIFE “”"WITH ALL THEIR HEARTS”"” IF THEY HAD BEEN GIVEN THE OPPORTUNITY. And to see that their ordinances get done that open the doors to the Celestial Kingdom and even exaltation is that applies for these FEW souls. And it will be very, very few souls respectively speaking.

If LDS think that they are going to somehow convert people there who had the chance here and rejected it they are simply ignorant. And Jesus Christ is no more revealed to the spirits in the next life than he is here, except that they already merit such.

You posit about a Gentile who did reject the gospel and he is doomed to terrestrial or telestial and in no wise is capable of qualifying for outer darkness.

What happens to a good Gentile person who chooses to reject the gospel and Christ in this life and in the spirit world? Though he/she never obtained the unction from on High, they likewise never received the gospel and repented of their sins. So does this person have inheritance in the kingdom of God or not?

In the spirit world, Christ is revealed to every person. Nobody is condemned for choices they make in ignorance. But the beauty of LDS theology is that everyone gets to make a fully informed choice to accept or reject Christ, repent of their sins, and be saved.

Further, we can not atone for our own sins. We may suffer for them it is true, but that suffering is unto repentance — it does not atone or remit a single sin. Only Christ’s atonement can satisfy the demands of justice.

Given that — would you place the person described above [an otherwise good Gentile person who never repents and accepts the gospel] inside the kingdom of God upon the resurrection [salvation, in one of its three degrees] or outside of the kingdom of God [damnation, in outer darkness]?

If you steal some cookies and then repent of it, then later steal some more cookies later on, did you repent of stealing cookies the first time?

The sons of perdition are the only ones who refuse to repent. They are the only ones who return to their sins like the dog to vomit. Everyone else eventually turns from their sins and forsakes them, or in other words, they eventually repent. This is why the Lord stated that this is how we know a man repents, he will confess his sins and forsake them (D&C 58: 43.) This is also why the former sins return (D&C 82: 7.) Unless you forsake (abandon) the sins, you haven’t repented of them.

But I do appreciate and thank you for calling me out on this. And if you find anything else you feel is wrong in my writings, please bring it to my attention.

I don’t really understand what you’re getting at.

I agree with your statement above. Certainly, the three degrees of glory are just that. I’ve never thought of them as being one kingdom of glory (celestial), and two kingdoms of regret (terrestrial and telestial).

Do I think there will be regret at the time of the resurrection? I do.

The parable the Savior gave us of the 10 virgins collaborates what the prophet said. The prophet Joseph Smith also said, “In the resurrection some are raised to be angels other are raised to become gods.” TPJS, p. 312.

It seems to me if I were hoping and expecting to be raised as a god and wasn’t that would be ” indescribably dreadful”.

When all is said and done, those who were initially disappointed will know, understand, and agree wholeheartedly that their judgment was true and fair. They will know that they have been given a kingdom that will bring them the greatest joy possible. There will be no doubt or equivocation, thus no regret.

My understanding is that the gospel of Jesus Christ is the celestial law, so, if you are currently living a telestial law and you hear the gospel preached and you accept it and start living it, you are living a celestial law. That’s telestial straight to celestial. There are no stepping stones to the celestial. It just requires repentance with a broken heart and a contrite spirit. If you have that, you are under the celestial law. If you don’t have that, nothing else matters, “for none are acceptable before God, save the meek and lowly in heart” (said Mormon.) All celestial, terrestrial and telestial spirits must go through the same heart process. The only difference between the three types of spirits is that one does not procrastinate the day of his repentance (the celestial spirit), while another procrastinates that day (the terrestrial spirit), and the third procrastinates it even longer (the telestial.) [The sons of perdition don't procrastinate the day of their repentance. They simply refuse to ever repent.]

The disappointment of hopes and expectations at the resurrection would be indescribably dreadful

to mean the same thing as

The disappointment of hopes and expectations at the resurrection will be indescribably dreadful.

In other words, he is not saying that there will be indescribably, dreadful disappointment of hopes and expectations at the resurrection. He is only saying that there would be such dread if those who were willing to be saved were resurrected without first becoming subject to certain rules and principles.

The real truth is that everyone resurrected will be glad to have it come to pass. No one will be disappointed, in the least, because no one who is willing to be saved will be resurrected before they become subject to certain rules and principles.

Here are his words again, paraphrased and switched in order so that his meaning can be read more clearly:

If men would (meaning, were willing to) acquire salvation before they leave this world, they have got to be subject to certain rule and principles, which were fixed by an unalterable decree before the world was. Otherwise, the disappointment of hopes and expectations at the resurrection would be indescribably dreadful.

I guess I’ll explain this further…

We only leave this world upon our resurrection. We leave this life upon physical death, but we do not leave this world, but instead go to what we call the spirit world, which is the spirit of this planet, which is attached to its physical body, just as our spirits are attached to our physical bodies. So, then, we say that the spirit world is here.

Everyone who leaves this life, goes to one of two places in spirit world: hell or paradise. The only people who go to paradise are those who have no chain of hell attached to them, meaning, all little children and all saints, who have repented of their sins with a broken heart and a contrite spirit. These people all inherit a celestial glory and await the resurrection in paradise.

Everyone else, regardless of what church they pertain to (including ours), goes to hell when they leave this life. Only people whose hearts are broken and who have repented in the depths of sorrow bypass hell and go to paradise.

Once they find themselves in hell, these people lose all hope of escape and go through the wailing, gnashing of teeth, etc. When spirit missionaries get to them, and preach them the gospel, they obtain hope again and desire to be saved by obedience to the principles that the missionaries teach them. After their hearts are broken and their repentance complete, and forgiveness received, these people can leave hell, for their chain of hell has been shaken off of them, and they can go to paradise to await the resurrection. This means that paradise also contains spirits who will inherit the terrestrial glory, but these spirits only enter after they have been preached to by the missionaries.

The telestial spirits resist being “subject to certain rules and principles” taught to them by the missionaries and only finally repent until after the thousand years are up, to come forth in the second resurrection.

For all of these spirits, celestial, terrestrial and telestial, the resurrection is sweet and represents a hope of receiving salvation. The terrestrial and telestial spirits, having spent time in hell and gone through the hopelessness of that place, are not expecting a celestial glory. They just want out. They don’t care what they get, so their respective rewards will be sweet.

For LDS church members who do not go through this sorrowing, repentance process before they die, and who die thinking they will go to the celestial kingdom because they have the outward ordinances of the gospel (without having their hearts circumcised), this hope of the celestial kingdom dies when they enter hell, along with faith, etc. But if they go through the repentance process in hell, they can receive a terrestrial or telestial reward, of which they will be all too eager and grateful to get, never mind that once they were thinking of the celestial kingdom.

Now, the sons of perdition are a different class of people altogether, for they are not willing to be saved, therefore, they refuse to subject themselves to the rules and principles spoken of by Joseph. They will be resurrected in their sins and received the resurrection of eternal damnation.

So, my understanding is that your statement: “The disappointment of receiving a terrestrial glory when a celestial inheritance was expected will be indescribably dreadful” is not correct. None of the saved souls will be disappointed in what they receive. Eternity in heaven, regardless of glory obtained, will be an entirely blissful experience, not an eternity of regret.