Comments on: Commentary on 2 Nephi 31:13 http://www.ldsaliveinchrist.com/2009/09/commentary-on-2-nephi-3113/ ...declare repentance and faith on the Savior, and remission of sins by baptism, and by fire, yea, even the Holy Ghost. Sun, 29 Aug 2010 15:08:40 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.0.1 By: Jared http://www.ldsaliveinchrist.com/2009/09/commentary-on-2-nephi-3113/comment-page-1/#comment-1912 Jared Thu, 24 Sep 2009 19:07:13 +0000 http://www.ldsaliveinchrist.com/?p=852#comment-1912 Rod, Thanks for coming by, and thanks for commenting. I agree about your experience with youth being excited about the 3 degrees of glory. I'm not a youth anymore (but my heart is), and I am still excited about the doctrine of the 3 degrees of glory. Like you, I'm motivated to get to the highest degree of glory. Heavenly Father has told us how, and I'm willing to walk the narrow path the prophets have defined. I'm working on enduring to the end. Rod,

Thanks for coming by, and thanks for commenting.

I agree about your experience with youth being excited about the 3 degrees of glory. I’m not a youth anymore (but my heart is), and I am still excited about the doctrine of the 3 degrees of glory.

Like you, I’m motivated to get to the highest degree of glory. Heavenly Father has told us how, and I’m willing to walk the narrow path the prophets have defined. I’m working on enduring to the end.

]]> By: Rod http://www.ldsaliveinchrist.com/2009/09/commentary-on-2-nephi-3113/comment-page-1/#comment-1911 Rod Thu, 24 Sep 2009 15:52:14 +0000 http://www.ldsaliveinchrist.com/?p=852#comment-1911 I see your point regarding different passages of scripture having different "importance", and I think that point is interesting, but I take it as being unimportant really. It's just an intro...you write and you come up with some way to intro what you are writing about. I am fine with that. That's literary license in my opinion. Ironically, the intro of your post is less important than the topic of your post. I salute you for good writing. This is a practical religion and I am a practical man. I agree wholeheartedly that the most important parts of the gospel are those that help us be better. Section 76, specifically the discussion of the 3 degrees of glory, actually does that, but in a more motivational way. I have seen many, youth in particular, really get excited about the gospel when discussing what happens after this life. That excitement can be a precursor to action, which changes. Others simply go straight to doctrine with a "I don't need to be motivated. I will just do as I am told" attitude. That works too. Bottom line, all doctrine is good for man. We each need a different recipe to get us back to Heavenly Father, and the gospel has it all. Enjoy your posts I see your point regarding different passages of scripture having different “importance”, and I think that point is interesting, but I take it as being unimportant really. It’s just an intro…you write and you come up with some way to intro what you are writing about. I am fine with that. That’s literary license in my opinion. Ironically, the intro of your post is less important than the topic of your post. I salute you for good writing.

This is a practical religion and I am a practical man. I agree wholeheartedly that the most important parts of the gospel are those that help us be better.

Section 76, specifically the discussion of the 3 degrees of glory, actually does that, but in a more motivational way. I have seen many, youth in particular, really get excited about the gospel when discussing what happens after this life. That excitement can be a precursor to action, which changes.

Others simply go straight to doctrine with a “I don’t need to be motivated. I will just do as I am told” attitude. That works too.

Bottom line, all doctrine is good for man. We each need a different recipe to get us back to Heavenly Father, and the gospel has it all.

Enjoy your posts

]]> By: Jared http://www.ldsaliveinchrist.com/2009/09/commentary-on-2-nephi-3113/comment-page-1/#comment-1901 Jared Mon, 14 Sep 2009 18:31:23 +0000 http://www.ldsaliveinchrist.com/?p=852#comment-1901 Spence--I don't know why the spam filter grabbed your comment. Anyhow, I just saw it, and of course, approved it. Thanks for your well thought out comment. You made me think. I'm going to do some research on your points. If I find anything worthwhile, I'll follow up. Spence–I don’t know why the spam filter grabbed your comment. Anyhow, I just saw it, and of course, approved it.

Thanks for your well thought out comment. You made me think.

I’m going to do some research on your points. If I find anything worthwhile, I’ll follow up.

]]> By: Spence http://www.ldsaliveinchrist.com/2009/09/commentary-on-2-nephi-3113/comment-page-1/#comment-1894 Spence Sun, 13 Sep 2009 20:13:26 +0000 http://www.ldsaliveinchrist.com/?p=852#comment-1894 Gonna have to disagree w/you a little on this one, Jared, for a number of reasons: 1-There is no such thing as a scripture that saves; what they do is explain what we have to do in order to get Christ to save us. 2-I agree, that to some extent, there are scriptures that are more valuable than others, but often it is not a case of one being more important than the other per se, but rather, that one contains doctrine more fundamental than another. You can't say that the foundation of the house is anymore important than the walls or roof, but order definitely matters when you're building. 3-Your dismissal of Section 76 as being merely explanatory is off; of course it is explanatory, but so is 2 Ne 31; it EXPLAINS what the doctrine of Christ is. You can argue that it is more prescriptive than D&C 76, which has a lot of descriptives as well, but IMHO, it is a mischaracterization of Section 76, which is also very prescriptive regarding what it takes to make it to the Celestial Kingdom. 3-Specifically regarding D&C 76: it is one of the most significant and important revelations God has ever given man. Early Church members used to refer to it as THE vision. It is the great compass that allows you to orient yourself to eternity. Anyway, love your posts and insights, and have no objections w/your thoughts on 2 Ne 31, but think you can expound on that scripture w/o having to "diss" on other scripture in general, and D&C 76 in particular. Just my two cents. Gonna have to disagree w/you a little on this one, Jared, for a number of reasons:

1-There is no such thing as a scripture that saves; what they do is explain what we have to do in order to get Christ to save us.

2-I agree, that to some extent, there are scriptures that are more valuable than others, but often it is not a case of one being more important than the other per se, but rather, that one contains doctrine more fundamental than another. You can’t say that the foundation of the house is anymore important than the walls or roof, but order definitely matters when you’re building.

3-Your dismissal of Section 76 as being merely explanatory is off; of course it is explanatory, but so is 2 Ne 31; it EXPLAINS what the doctrine of Christ is. You can argue that it is more prescriptive than D&C 76, which has a lot of descriptives as well, but IMHO, it is a mischaracterization of Section 76, which is also very prescriptive regarding what it takes to make it to the Celestial Kingdom.

3-Specifically regarding D&C 76: it is one of the most significant and important revelations God has ever given man. Early Church members used to refer to it as THE vision. It is the great compass that allows you to orient yourself to eternity.

Anyway, love your posts and insights, and have no objections w/your thoughts on 2 Ne 31, but think you can expound on that scripture w/o having to “diss” on other scripture in general, and D&C 76 in particular.

Just my two cents.

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