Comments on: What is the Great Destroyer of Mormon Faith?

By: MarKar

MarKar — Sat, 06 Aug 2016 12:59:07 +0000

Thought provoking and a great question!

“Here’s how I see it:”

The Light of Christ, that which abides in my heart, that which told me to be baptized, told me the Book of Mormon is true, that which told me to go on a mission, that which tells me to serve others has told me clearly the November policy is not of God.

By: Jared

Jared — Fri, 15 Jul 2016 18:34:12 +0000

James,

A couple of points. I believe there is a difference between mistakes and lies. We’re taught that prophets and apostles are fallible. Prophets teach they will not lead us astray, but that doesn’t mean they won’t make mistakes.

I read 3 Nephi 16:10 and related verses differently than you.

Calvib,

I haven’t read “Planted” yet. Thanks for your review.

By: Calvib

Calvib — Wed, 13 Jul 2016 02:41:43 +0000

I would suggest you read ‘Planted’ by Patrick Q. Mason.
He’s got some great stuff in there that really connected with me.
I’m sure I’ll butcher it, but what I remember was the important role that trials and human mistakes can and should play in the church.
That the very errors–sometime egregious ones committed by church leaders can be what’s necessary for growth by individuals and the church.

By: James Russell Uhl

James Russell Uhl — Mon, 11 Jul 2016 20:17:31 +0000

Jared,
Do you conflate the Gospel of Jesus Christ with the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints? I am convinced one can be in touch with Christ’s Gospel without any contact the LDS church. I believe lying by church leaders is one of, if not the, most important reasons people get disgusted and leave the LDS church. All too often, those folks throw out the baby with the bathwater and lose their faith altogether.
Could that include the “murders” (killing peoples’ spiritual lives) which the Savior said would be committed in the latter days by the church (3 Nephi 16:10)?
Thank you.
James Russell Uhl

By: Jared

Jared — Fri, 08 Jul 2016 16:56:46 +0000

James,
There are many things that can challenge the faith of LDS. You’ve listed a few. I’ve looked into all of them that are on the internet and elsewhere and reached a different conclusion than you.

More importantly, I’ve followed the teachings of the gospel and have been richly rewarded with the promised blessings. The most important blessings being the manifestations of the Spirit. I give an account of some of these manifestations on this blog. Without them, I would feel much like you do.

Best wishes,

Jared

By: James Russell Uhl

James Russell Uhl — Thu, 07 Jul 2016 17:55:46 +0000

Jared,
I have no desire to debate with you. You may believe as you wish.
There have been so many lies over the decades since Joseph and Hyrum died it starts to rival the list of lies the Clintons have told over their decades in the limelight.
Follow the prophet, he knows the way
Church leaders can never lead you astray
Polygamy is necessary for exaltation
Stay away from the mysteries, they will lead you into apostasy
The list is very long, these are not my “top of the list’ lies, just representative.
Anyone who does not see the lying that has gone on is either willfully blind or willfully ignorant.
Thank you.
JRU

By: Jared

Jared — Sat, 02 Jul 2016 22:41:53 +0000

James,

Pick the top two “lies” on your list and let’s discuss them.

By: James Russell Uhl

James Russell Uhl — Fri, 01 Jul 2016 22:23:21 +0000

What is the great destroyer of the Mormon faith?
The lies which have been told and continue to be told by the leaders of the faith.
As people wise up via internet, they see the lies and they (those without a God-given testimony) turn away from the church and having been sold on the lie that the church and the gospel are the same thing, they lose their faith.
James Russell Uhl

By: Rozy

Rozy — Mon, 27 Jun 2016 20:01:17 +0000

Millennials don’t live in prosperous times? Goodness, perhaps you should go to China, India, Vietnam, Philippines, Venezuela, etc. and see honest to goodness poverty in those places and compare that to the absolute luxury that surrounds almost all citizens of the US. Even those considered poor here have more goods, clothing and food than most of the rest of the world.

The author is correct–our prosperity will be our downfall if we don’t humble ourselves and follow the Savior with exactness.

By: Mark N.

Mark N. — Mon, 27 Jun 2016 17:59:49 +0000

I think that the Boomers lived in prosperous times; the Millennials, not so much. The days of being able to be prosperous on a single wage earner’s earnings seem to be gone for good. And yet, if couples decide to go the dual wage earner route, then pretty much all of one of those wage earner’s earnings have to go to pay for child care, and as costly as that is, it’s widely acknowledged that child care people are grossly underpaid. And as the Boomers age, somebody has to pay for their care as well as their (our) health care demands increase. And rare is the Boomer that has enough in the bank to cover those needs.